Monday, August 04, 2008

Poker Crusher sucks, or no?

Some forum members are debating about Poker Crusher and its accuracy:

You are using a "free lookup" and as such it is just a hodgepodge data collection. It is the SUM TOTAL of every game type, cash or tournament, any buy in level, full table or short table, no limit and fixed limit ALL added together then analyzed.

Raz is more uniform or narrow in game types, therefore his "analysis" is going to be a bit more accurate as there are fewer fringe numbers added in to skew the result.

Since you have a lot of FL games in there and you also have short table games in there, you have a larger portion of looser style play numbers added in to the sum total. You do not play the same starters short in FL as you do NL and your positions you play are also different. Likewise if you are short table and HU you play different. You may have vp of 50+ for straight HU play, 25-30 for 5 or 6 way play, 10 for early stages, etc...

That analysis rating is everything thrown together and not a good barometer. It's there to entice you to look deeper. Now if you strip things out and filter them properly...

I've edited and generalized so as not to put specifics out but:

Sun137 FT poker, Full table tourney play, NLHE, Shark, TAG.
VP-(removed exact number but it's under 20)
PFR (Again removed exact but it's under 12)
W$SD (Over 50% is all I'll say Very Happy )

JP's profile summary: Alpha-T - If he raises, reraises or goes all in preflop, fold unless you have AA-KK-QQ as he is more likely to win the hand if it goes to showdown historically. Laughing

Now this is ONLY for a tournament of no limit hold em and a full table of 7-9 players on full tilt only.

Now, if I add in ALL the data from the cash games FL and NL the numbers shift upwards in all cases but one which is a hair downward by comparison. So you see, it's not an accurate portrait of a player as there are too many unknowns in the the matrix. That website is useless for profiling, but the program is not as you can filter out exactly what you want.

Just like poker tracker, it's usless to know you played 224,899 hands, you have to sort it out with various criteria to make is useful to us. AA had it 180 times means nothing as it's just the sum total of how often you had it. But filter it and sort by position, amounts won, hands played etc... and it starts to take on meaning that we can do something with.

It can also vary from site to site! On stars, I am tighter than Sun, on FT Sun is Tighter than me yet we seem to have similar playing style as in a tight aggressive play for NLHE.

But it is entertaining to look at and if you play MOSTLY one type of game, the profile can be close.

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