Tuesday, December 09, 2008

Is TI miscounting OUTS as User claims?

I noticed something curious about Tournament Indicator, where I think the poker software miscounted my outs.

Let me give you the setup.

My hole cards: 6s As

The board: 3c 8s 9s 7d (we're on the Turn, with the River yet to come)

Outs as calculated by Tournament Indicator: 21 outs

(9 spades, 3 Tens, 3 Fives, 3 Sixes, 3 Aces)

The pot: $400

I'm on the cut-off, with 3 players in front of me, with me yet to act.

Okay.

Obviously, I have a Flush draw and an Open Straight draw.

What I don't understand is why does Tournament Indicator only count THREE of the tens and THREE of the fives as outs, rather than FOUR outs for each?

There are FOUR tens and FOUR fives remaining, since none of these cards are in my hand nor are they on the board.

I know, I know. I'm always worried about bugs in the software that could affect my long term profitability.

Is the software in error or are those "outs" being discounted for some reason. If they're being discounted, why?

As always, I appreciate any insight.
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Not to worry, TI is doing its job just fine. Here's how its broken down:

-9 spades - simple enough
-3 sixes/aces - obvious again
-3 tens/fives - non-spade cards for the straight

The key here is non-spade cards. TI is not making the mistake of double counting one card twice. In this case it has already counted the ten and five of spades as two of the nine spade outs. Therefore, it does not count it again as an out to the straight.

Avoid that double counting, it makes the pot odds seem better than they are!

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Oh, yes, of course!

How could I have MISSED that?!

LOL!

Clearly an example of me forgetting not to double count outs! Very Happy

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